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Journal Entry: Fri Apr 6, 2012, 5:53 PM



A base created by tracing someone else's work.

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Using a traced base is like being the last segment of a human centipede.

You're not even just tracing, you're filling on top of something that was already traced for you.
It's the epitome of laziness. It's recycled shit in your mouth. It's anti-art.

Traced base-ers. They demand credit for supplying you with diarrhea to eat and re-shit.

And that's why I have a project for you.


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An example of perfection:
Daniel Allistair Sveldt by cumbucket10 Quack I am a duck by PlainSimpleBro


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:iconthemim:
TheMim Featured By Owner May 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I just now found this journal, I would do it, but that means using those filthy bases and cluttering up my page...
maybe
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:iconbootypatrol:
BootyPatrol Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'll consider it.
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:iconjin-kurazama:
Jin-Kurazama Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012
Yes.

All of my yes.
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:iconsnapdragonanime101:
snapdragonanime101 Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
omg i think its working
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:iconbad-at-halo:
Bad-at-Halo Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
nope
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:iconcheetopaw:
Cheetopaw Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012
I felt I should make a kawaii traced base for you to all use! I hope the original artist doesn't mind. (Don't worry, I was sure to not ask and just steal without permission)

cheetopaw.deviantart.com/art/FURST-BASE-295250302
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:icontamdrogynous:
Tamdrogynous Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012
[link]
dooooone
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:iconcheetopaw:
Cheetopaw Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012
as u wish my kween: [link]
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:iconmezzo-makes-art:
mezzo-makes-art Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012   General Artist
I did this on my alt account, but I never got shit for not crediting...although they didn't even know I used them. Will have to do this!
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:iconcumbucket10:
cumbucket10 Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012
[link]

Mission success
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:iconwhimsilli:
whimsilli Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Student General Artist
I understand bases you make yourself but not traced bases :O_o:
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:iconscreaminglullabies:
ScreamingLullabies Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Student General Artist
LOL at the South Park reference XD
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:iconogawaburukku:
OgawaBurukku Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Professional General Artist
South Park?? You know that episode was making fun of a Human Centipede movie, right?
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:iconscreaminglullabies:
ScreamingLullabies Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Student General Artist
Nope :B not really sure I've ever even heard of a Human Centipede movie
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:iconogawaburukku:
OgawaBurukku Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Professional General Artist
The Japanese character Kyle was attached to was ripped straight from the movie. The movie was pretty awful, I hear.
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:icontheeinherjar-sitter:
TheEinherjar-Sitter Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Can I do this project? :icondurrhurrplz:
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:iconlifesentence:
LifeSentence Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012   Traditional Artist
the only thing that kills me about bases is having to look at them. As someone who doesn't really care about the morals as of yet, having to see them around dA is painful. especially when they are used and linked. >.<
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:iconi-moosker:
i-Moosker Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Student Digital Artist
This project is full of win!
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:iconlydia813:
Lydia813 Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012   General Artist
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:iconrastaperuvian:
Rastaperuvian Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012
Uh, you were supposed to link back to the image the base was traced off of.
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:iconlydia813:
Lydia813 Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012   General Artist
I did
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:iconcontext-fucker:
context-fucker Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Student Digital Artist
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:iconaoiitsuki:
aoiitsuki Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You again?
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:iconbeavisjr:
Beavisjr Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012
SHE IS SPECIAL.
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:iconaoiitsuki:
aoiitsuki Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
In more ways than one :3
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:iconplainsimplebro:
PlainSimpleBro Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012
:iconblushplz: Oh goodness, featured on your journal? I'm so speshal.
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:iconcrownedfox:
CrownedFox Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Yes, yes you are...
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:iconkllnger:
KLlNGER Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Shitstorm.
Shitstorm everywhere.
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:iconratmie-kun:
Ratmie-kun Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I really want to comment on this.
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:iconcoolcat10189:
coolcat10189 Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012
People need to join (me included)

To make bases for people to use is one thing. To rip the style off of another artist, make a 5 min base without their permission and to post it on deviant art claiming it as your own is another. That is theft regardless of how you look at it.
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:iconamaipetisu:
Amaipetisu Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012   Digital Artist
I didnt even know dA had a category for such thing?! LORD..
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:iconancestorsrelic:
ancestorsrelic Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You use traced bases, the work done by others, so it isn't art....
You use stock-photos made by others for your work, so it isn't art....
You use a premade Landscape to take your photo, it isn't art, you only pushed the button....
You use premade content in your 3D-work and didn't modeled all from scratch, so it isn't art....
You used colors, pens and paper made by others, so it isn't art....

Its all traced, premade, stolen, shitty, trash! So much hate in always the same discussions over and over again. I have the feeling some elitist or wanna-be-elitist artists here need this frequent "bashing-parties" only for their ego.
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:iconmezzo-makes-art:
mezzo-makes-art Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012   General Artist
The main difference is stock photos are photos that is used with expressed consent of the photographer. Accounts on DeviantART for this sole purpose exist for a reason, as do books with reference photos that you can buy.

You can't copyright landscapes, so we'll assume your backyard is under public domain. There's also more to photography than "pressing a button". Assuming we're not talking about Facebook bathroom mirror shots here, a true professional photographer has to consider an interesting subject matter, a message, as well as physical aspects such as lighting and color.

Premade content usually is there for the same reason as stock art, made for the sole purpose of helping other artists with expressed consent of the people who made it. That's one of the main purposes of 3D software.

Artist's tools (colors, pens, paper) are made with the purpose of being used for creative purposes. In fact, I have the freedom to use these tools however I want, as long as how I use them isn't breaking any law. For any company to dictate how I use their product is a clear violation of constitutional rights, so long as how I use it isn't clearly breaking the law or causing injury to others. (Ex: I can use my kitchen knife for purposes other than cooking, such as cutting a rope or throwing it in my TV screen, but it stops being legal when I start stabbing someone).

Traced bases on the other hand, do NOT take any consideration to the wishes of the original artists. Tracers, either due to the fact of the original artists' native tongue, popularity, or no contact information, do not even do so much as to bother to ASK.

So, let's assume that an artist who had their artwork traced found out and did not want their work made into a shitty piece of MSPaint base. Let's also assume that the tracer ("base maker") was asked to take it down, and they obliged. The problem? Because it was a base, now the original artist has to track down anyone and everyone who used it, including those that didn't leave links in the comments. Thus, it's the equivalent of them tracing the original work. The only difference is the base-users traced over someone else's shitty trace.

Think of it this way: If the artist wanted their shit made into a base, they would goddamn do it themselves. Obviously if their stuff is good enough to make talentless hacks want to ride of their coattails of fame, I'm certainly sure they can pull off a base (with better quality to boot).

The solution? You can either:
A) Ask and receive permission to turn something into a base.
B) Suggest the artist does it and let the artist do it.
C) If A or B does not occur, DON'T FUCKING TOUCH THEIR WORK.

TL;DR You're stupid and know nothing about what you're talking about.
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:iconancestorsrelic:
ancestorsrelic Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're stupid and know nothing about what you're talking about.
Thanks! Another evidence how some arrogant people here let only their own opinion count and the whole rest of the workd has to bow before it! Your arguments are really good, but this last words throw your back on Youtube-level in a fraction of a second: Everyone who don't share your point of view opinion is stupid.
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:iconmezzo-makes-art:
mezzo-makes-art Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012   General Artist
No, not every opinion. But you're clearly stupid as far as knowing what copyright is.

Look on the bright side, at least I didn't call you a fag seven times and said I had an older brother that could hack your computer.
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:iconlawenta:
Lawenta Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Interesting argument, you have a point. :) But I think this article is aimed mostly at the authors of the traced bases, people who copy (mostly) without permission of the original artist and then demand credit for it. It's more the question of rights than whether the base (and pictures created with it) is or isn't art.

However, this article doesn't seem like something that invites discussion, more like "let's troll someone because we have the moral right to do so!"
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:iconaradiaterror:
AraDiaTerror Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Not creating something on your own, and using someone's else drawing on that way, isn't art.
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:iconstapledslut:
StapledSlut Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012
What a stretch
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:iconstarryevening:
StarryEvening Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Student General Artist
I'm pretty sure traced bases are different from just about everything else you mentioned.

Traced bases, are a form of art theft, the people trace over other's work, people who's art is 100% of the time better than the base maker's, and then claim it as their own 'hard work'. The original artists aren't even always credited. Then, people make their own art off of the traced bases, furthering the line of art theft.

Stock photos are made for the purpose of references, and photo manipulations. The rest of what you mentioned, is just silly.
I don't have a problem with normal bases. Most often, people who use bases, are very inexperienced and the art is shitty. On occasion though, there are people who use bases, who use them well, it's uncommon, but it can happen. Traced bases, are just lines of using someone else's art. It's like using a shitty coloring book, but worse.

Some groups, especially this person, do have elitist theories and personalities, but on this specific issue, I entirely side with her. It's a line of art theft, and it's really embarrassing.
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:iconancestorsrelic:
ancestorsrelic Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes, it is silly! I know this, but unfortunately i have read many discussions done in the same kind as this here about every of the mentioned claims about "You did/used (insert claim here) And so it isn't art!"
It started over 150 years ago, when traditional artists attacked the first photographers by just pressing the button to "create art". Later the first photographers attacked the "second generation" of photographers, who didn't used their own darkrooms to develop their pictures and let Kodak do the printing, and traditional Photographers attacked about 100 years later the "third generation" photographers, who used Digicams and Photoshop instead of a darkroom and so on.
Now we are on traced Bases... Since centuries artists learn by copying the old masters of art. Some remain stay on the level of pure copying/tracing all the time, but some devolop further and find their own style. Everyone who made art is standing on the shoulders of the giants who came before.

Yes, it is "a stretch". I just stretched it out in compare to other discussions and rants of the same kind, but the oddest thing is, that for everyone who starts such a discussion his claim is every time the only true and all others can't be compared with the unique case their mention.
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:iconmezzo-makes-art:
mezzo-makes-art Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012   General Artist
Since centuries artists learn by copying the old masters of art.

Yes, I'm sure Da Vinci traced the Mona Lisa instead of studying nude models to learn anatomy and practicing constantly to better his skill.

There's a vast difference from looking at other people's work and drawing your own version from scratch and deliberately putting a sheet of tracing paper over it.
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:iconstarryevening:
StarryEvening Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Student General Artist
You're arguing a different point than what the journal is making.

This is less of a debate over if the bases or traced bases are Art no one is making that argument. The argument being made, is if the traced bases are a form of art theft.
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:iconqueen-soulia:
Queen-Soulia Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
perfection!! [link]
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:iconaureta:
Aureta Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
These kind of things make me cringe. Why is there a gallery for traced bases now? That's just...no.

I'm all up for your plan, but the problem is, most of those traced bases credit an original photo, acknowledging the fact that it's not theirs.
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:iconstapledslut:
StapledSlut Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012
Then they demand you credit THEM and not the original artist. [link]
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:icondreamychocola:
dreamychocola Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes, but the original photo usually links to a random photobucket or tumblr account.
Rarely do they credit the actual artist by linking to the artist's page/profile.
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:iconanim3admir3r:
anim3admir3r Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
regardless, in my opinion it's still proof that it's not theirs.
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:iconstarryevening:
StarryEvening Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Student General Artist
and how many of the "Traced Base artists" do you think, actually seek out the artist for permission. It's just sad. Uhg. //shudders.
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:iconexillior:
Exillior Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Would it make it a valid art form, then, if they credited to the actual artist's page? :?
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:icondreamychocola:
dreamychocola Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Not really, but it would've been slightly more acceptable than outright not crediting at all. At least they acknowledge the fact that they just traced over it, and that it is not their own creation entirely.
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